Suu Kyi Says Kachin War Should ‘Stop Immediately’

Aung San Suu Kyi, second from left, walks up the steps to Burma's Parliament with fellow National League for Democracy MPs on Jan. 16, 2013. (Photo: Tha Lun Zaung Htet / The Irrawaddy)

Aung San Suu Kyi, second from left, walks up the steps to Burma’s Parliament with fellow National League for Democracy MPs on Jan. 16, 2013. (Photo: Yeni / The Irrawaddy)

NAYPYIDAW — Burmese opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, under fire for her silence over the escalating conflict in Kachin State, said on Wednesday that fighting between ethnic Kachin rebels and the Burmese armed forces should “stop immediately.”

Speaking briefly to The Irrawaddy during today’s session of the Union Parliament in Naypyidaw, the leader of the opposition National League for Democracy (NLD) expressed concern about recent reports of civilian casualties in the state, and called for an end to the violence.

“I don’t like any kind of war or violence,” said the Nobel Peace Prize laureate. “I have always said that we should negotiate amongst ourselves so that there is no need to fight like this.”

She added: “We will only be able to avoid such conflicts if we begin to practice a culture of negotiation.”

Regarding her own role in resolving the conflict, Suu Kyi said that despite being a member of Burma’s Parliament, she has limited power to directly address the issue.

“I am not a member of Parliament’s Ethnic Committee. That doesn’t mean that I don’t take responsibility for the matter or that I don’t care about it, but different committees should respect each other and not interfere in each other’s work,” she said.

She added, however, that Burma’s ethnic issues are not just a matter for MPs, but can only be resolved through the efforts of all citizens, including the country’s media.

“Mutual respect and mutual trust are the key to solving the ethnic issues. We, as well as the government, have to ask ourselves whether we understand the goals of the ethnic people and whether we can help them fulfill their goals,” she said, adding that she would be willing to assist in the peace process if she is invited by the government.

Suu Kyi also responded to a statement by British Foreign Office Minister Alistair Burt, who said on Monday that the European Union could reinstate its sanctions against Burma because of the ongoing conflict, which earlier this week claimed the lives of several civilians, and has displaced tens of thousands of others since it started a year an a half ago.

“They were never completely lifted,” Suu Kyi said of the sanctions that were suspended last year in recognition of the Burmese government’s recent political and economic reforms. She added that the rest of the world is also concerned about the toll that the conflict is taking.

Fighting intensified late last month, when the Burmese armed forces began carrying out airstrikes against the Kachin Independence Army (KIA) near its headquarters at Laiza, on the Sino-Burmese border. After seizing a KIA outpost near Laiza following series of aerial attacks in the final week of December, Burmese forces began shelling the town with heavy artillery. An attack on Monday, left three civilians dead and several others seriously injured.

According to the latest reports on Wednesday, Burmese fighter jets were continuing to strike a rebel-held post on Kha Rha hill, while ground troops were attacking another post on Lim Bum hill.


90 Responses to Suu Kyi Says Kachin War Should ‘Stop Immediately’

  1. Finally spoken under pressure. However, “Silence” on unjust war and humanitarian crisis is not about respecting other people’s job because it is the job of everyone who concern it. I wonder if she has become a well-calculated politician rather than firmly standing for the rights of the people!

  2. Very sad that you can not stand for the ethnic people as before. But we still support you and have hope on you. Don’t forget us. We prayed, signed the petition, and demonstrated for your release because we believe your can be our voice and firmly stand for us.
    Please don’t forget us.

    • Are you sure of what you have said? If so, Why these terrorists were causing trouble since the country’s independent it was not under military rule? Su Kyi is not the answer for everything. She has been used by every figures both internal and external influences just to destabilize the country.

      • Your stepfather U Nu betrayed the Union and your other stepfathers, Ne Win and Than Shwe, threw it in Hell. If your stepfather U Nu respected the Pang Long Agreement Treaty, this ugly mess would not happen this bad. Every wrong step was made by your stepfathers. There was no terrorist in Burma but traitors(your stepfathers) who betrayed the Union and the ethnics.

        • It sounds like someone who has never been taught by the parent how to raise your voice decently. Everyone can use the same word but I wouldn’t dare to use it in public as I was raised by decent and educated parents. You are looking at U Nu, Ne Win and Than Shwe and blamed them for everything. Look a little further back to the beginning of the independent. Who the hell were they? Planting mines on rail tracks, cutting off communication and transportation to the North? If you have enough education recall those days and find out who were behind it. My sincere advise to you is look at yourself and ask whether you are mature enough at your age and enough education provided by your parents. If not go back to school and learn some decency. (You may even learn from the children who are still at school today).

        • Dear leikpya
          “Regarding her (DASSK) own role in resolving the conflict, Suu Kyi said that despite being a member of Burma’s Parliament, she has limited power to directly address the issue.

          “She (DASSK) added, however, that Burma’s ethnic issues are not just a matter for MPs, but can only be resolved through the efforts of all citizens, including the country’s media.”

          “Mutual respect and mutual trust are the key to solving the ethnic issues. We, as well as the government, have to ask ourselves whether we understand the goals of the ethnic people and whether we can help them fulfill their goals,” she said, adding that she would be willing to assist in the peace process if she is invited by the government.”

          “Suu Kyi also responded to a statement by British Foreign Office Minister Alistair Burt, who said on Monday that the European Union could reinstate its sanctions against Burma because of the ongoing conflict, which earlier this week claimed the lives of several civilians, and has displaced tens of thousands of others since it started a year an a half ago.”

          I fully agree with you ( Leikoya) and cheer DASSK.

          Do not care about the ‘Bill” because Bill does not know General Aung san requested and initiate Kachin for Panglong agreement for Burmese independence. Therefore, It is not Kachin to betray Bama and Aung San. it is bamanization of idiot U nu ( make use of Buddhism), notorious Ne win and cruel, rapist Than shwe. Bill still admire U nu and bama military thugs so Bill has no ethical and moral behaviour for writing such kind of low opinion.
          DASSK still does not obviously address about her opinion on Panglong agreement but she mentions that she realise well what all ethnics need for their right and autonomy according to Panglong agreement. At least, DASSK warns about the re-instate of full economic sanction from EU and USA for the killing Kachin. DASSK mentions that it need media or people power to resolve this issue so all Burmese journals and medias as well as peace people demonstration should demand and force military parliament to authorize DASSK to be leader of ethnic committee. The present ethnic committee is rubbish, corrupted and crony and rapist than shwe’s control one. We all want to know the names of the ethnic committee as criminals in Burmese history. The committee knows well about the Panglong agreement so they are lack of ethical and moral responsibility. The re-instate the sanction on Burma is due to this bad performance of this committee and rapist than shwe. Without solving the ethnics problem , there is no confidence in all foreign investment because all business in ethnic lands are illegal by bama military thugs. All Burmese should go out to the streets for demonstration for the sake of future.
          Cheer, cheer DASSK.

      • Every Kachin has the birth right and responsibility to fight the lowlife burman bandit army off their land.

        • Every dutiful and responsible citizen must learn how to respect law and order of the country. If not, they can apply themselves into refugees camps (as they usually do to gain access to other country). Some people are making noises from outside of the country to make the matter more aware of international media. Most of them are so called former refugees.

          • every human with even an ounce of dignity should stand up to mob rules established by burman bandits. even they themselves don’t know how to follow those rules. the rules are changed depending on the mood swing of the generals which happen quite often even though they appear to be males.

      • How dare you call us terrorists, you are the terrorists. You invade our land illegally. You are not blind but you can’t see , you are not hearing-impaired but you can’t still hear . Know where you stand otherwise burma may not be revolution.

      • Su Kyi is not the answer for everything but she says she wants to be a president of Burma, many people in the world knows that she is a leader of Burma and Nobel Prize owner. So, she has to say something before many people die. Anyway, we many ethnic people do not believe her.

      • Bama army invades Kachin land for robbing and raping Kachin with air strike. Bill should give reason why bama army should be in Kachin military posts. Police and other administration departments can do their own jobs in Kachin land. Bill should give opinion about the panglong agreement and should know how U nu twisted this agreement as well. If so, Bama army is terrorist and invader. DASSK has a right to say what she knows and what she thinks upon every issues regarding to the sake of the world most poorest country, Burma caused by idiot U nu and bama military thugs.

      • Bill, you seems to see only one side of a coin. Have you heard of White Flag, Red Flag and multiple rebellions in the 1040s and 1050s? Have you ever read Panglong Agreement? Have you ever heard of Rangoon Government in the 1950s? Back then who saved the country? If you haven’t heard of them, you need to learn a little deeper of Burma history. Unfortunately, you won’t learn this history or fact from the schools because the history of Burma has been rewritten with lies and propaganda. You may still find a few people those who experienced it and witnessed it firsthand. But I would first suggest you might have to empty your cup of knowledge that is filled with lies and propagandas!
        Your sincere and unbiased comments based on fact are always welcomed and useful to others.

        • Dan, If you really read and understood well about history, make your point accurately. White flag and Red flag were never existed in 1040 and 1050s as you stated. Read more of the history. Panglong Agreement has clearly stated the time frame. Did they ever abide by the agreement they made? I am not quiet sure whether you understand a bit of that agreement or not. Have you ever learnt why it happened to be Rangoon Government? Who were the culprits made that happened and when? Did they ever considered to follow what they agreed upon that agreement? Please do not under estimate and criticize over the extent of others opinion and knowledge without knowing yourself. You are welcome to raise your opinion but do not think that you and you alone knows everything about the history of this country. There are many but don’t want to waste time by writing comments without positive contribution towards the unity and development of the country.

  3. The Government of Burma must use the same model for peace negotiation. We Kachin demand the peace model government applied with the WAs, Maing Lar Groups, Karens, to which the talks were done under peaceful environment, friendly and no military pressure.
    With Kachins, the Government use military pressure and dialogue at the same time (Special model). The military intrusion and attacks usually committed by the Government troops on the days of the peace talk. The invitation for the peace talks come along with the heavy military operation. The Kachins will never talk under the gunpoint. US must urge the Government of Burma to use the same Peace model they used for other groups to Kachin, it will be absolutely OK. Kachins are waging defensive war, for now, even escaping war, no way to give trouble to the giant army and to intrude to the mainland Burma. The Government said that KIA disturb the troops travel to deliver the rations to the Government military posts, WHY they have the military posts in the KIA areas, isn’t apparent intrusion and for the purpose to ignite the war. KIA is simple, defending their land and their peoples from the brutal foreign troops.

  4. Suu Kyi just woke up from her long nap. As opposition leader and chairwoman of NLD, she did not do her job. Pointing out wrongdoing of the government is her job too, instead of shutting her lips tied while the Kachins are assaulted on their own land. On this assault, except the Myanmars, we the ethnics see it as the pure Myanmarese aggression. Instead of having political dialogue, Myanmarese junta has offered the ethnics peace talk which bears no fruit. The Kachins have requested political dialogue from the junta but their request has never been seriously taken by the junta. This kind of aggression is animal’s way of trying to win over others.

  5. Well, if you wanted hear from Daw Su speaking out about fighting in Kachin state everyday and then you need to ask her everyday. She will answer same answer to you everyday.
    Daw Su won’t be doing job for just putting Icing Sugar on the Cake. She will make whole Cake and putting on the table when she was given chance.
    Why KIA can not do putting their demand lists on Web Site? So all peoples can see what they want and why Government refuses some of KIA’s demands.
    Both sides can not fight for ever. They need to come to table and talk. If KIA wants UN official present at the negotiation and then asked UN to send UN officials as witness if Burmese Army does not accept UN intervention.
    How many lives have to lost and displace before KIA and Army come to accept peace?
    Dear Irrawaddy, please ask KIA for their demand lists and publish on Irrawaddy. After that, ask Burmese Government about what they agreed and what they are not.
    Thank you Irrawaddy.

    • Are you Sai Kyi Kan or Sai Myetsih Kan? The Kachins do not ask much but they do ask for what the Pang Long Agreement promises them to have. They do not ask for your mother nor your sister but they do ask for self-determination on their own Kachin State and Federal System in the Union which were guaranteed by the Pang Long Agreement. So, if you do not get it or you do not understand, you better shut you big mouth for good, idiot.

      • Foul mouthing again. This has proven your status and educational background. Do you know how many educated people (like you) has brain to lead the Kachin state if even they are allowed to have federal system? Do you know the proverb “don’t serve the fox in the golden plate as it will piss in it”. They don’t deserve for it. Full stop!!

        • it’s pretty obvious that you grew up rote learning. look at the way you keep repeating lies, hoping that it will become true. well.. guess what there are also people who were educated in liberal system, and can see things in black and white, and dare speak up and take action when they see injustice.

          • Then, why don’t these people go home and help their own? Instead of writing comments online and claiming themselves as educated in liberal system, prove yourselves that your are able to lead your own people. This insurgence activities started even before your were born and main source of economy down fall in this region.

        • Thank you Bill. Some of young generation didn’t learn proper civilized English language. I always forgiven then but they should learn proper Civilized English if they want to lead country one day. However, nickname Leikpya (aka) Pang Long Agreement Treaty does not know thoroughly about the country history and his feeling and opinion base on knowledge base on hearsay history and frustration. I have heard many hearsay stories from my Shan old generation. We have to evaluate every story base on truth. For example, we Shan politicians always said Aung San betray us but Bogyoke Aung San was assassinated before Burma was given Independent. How could they accuse Bogyoke Betrayed us? You can not accuse someone who can not defend himself. I’ll say these politicians are opportunists and liars.
          I’m not stand for exclusively Shan ethnic or any ethnics but I’m standing firm my believing which we all Burmese ethnics will benefit from united one nation. No ethnic can not stand alone in Burma because limited natural resources in region and logistic condition deterrence from staying independently in Burma. We should be united as one but nothing else. I hope Leikpya (aka) Pang Long Agreement Treaty will learn truth history of Burma and do not over reacting base on emotion and frustration.
          Please, let me say thank you Bill.

      • Hi Leikpya, I hope you do understand simple English language and you understand my straightforward comment. I always wrote with simple English.
        In my comment, I didn’t offense to KIA or anyone. I didn’t against KIA demand or even I didn’t know what KIA wants either. For sake of civilians, both sides need to come to table and negotiate instead of fighting.
        I only want to see peace and stability in our country. I have no idea and I don’t know the reason you have insulting me in first place.
        Sorry Leikpya, I didn’t learn vulgar language to insult peoples. So I’ll leave you with your vulgar language.
        I hope your parent won’t be proud of this kind of yours vulgar language.
        My name is Sai Lin Kan and I’m not someone you knew because we are difference generation. You’re my son or grandson generation.

        • Sai Lin Kan wrote”:Why KIA can not do putting their demand lists on Web Site? So all peoples can see what they want and why Government refuses some of KIA’s demands.” “If KIA wants UN official present at the negotiation and then asked UN to send UN officials as witness if (?although)Burmese Army does not accept UN intervention.”Dear “Irrawaddy, please ask KIA for their demand lists and publish on Irrawaddy. After that, ask Burmese Government about what they agreed and what they are not”

          From my understanding upon above simple English writitng, Sai Lin Kan’s tone is demanding KIA what should do ( KIA demand lists, KIA wants UN officials). I hope you are not in the group of Shan lay who blames KIA for raping Shan in the past as i read in the Irrawaddy.

          Sai lin kan wrote:”They need to come to table and talk.”

          Kachin wants to talk with bama military thugs on conditions that bama army should stop invading land and promise of obligation of panglong agreement. Do you think this new ceasefire proposal from than shwe again is real or not? Because last ceasefire agreement , designed by rapist than shwe and kyint nyunt is broken unilaterally by min aung laing 17 years later. The reason is Kachin does not agree forming border guard force , totally controlled by than shwe bama military thugs. Do you trust the new , poisonous cease fire agreement, designed by than shwe’s puppet, min aung laing and thein sein?
          If you drink poison for second time with knowing there is poison in your drink, you might be naive or suffering from Dementia ( lack of abstract thinking ) or suicide yourself due to being coward to surrender in front of bama military thugs. Why some Shan ethnic (including Shan lay), like you are so weak to surrender in front of rapist than shwe or so weak to trust bama military thugs. It might be possible that there is no Shan culture ( bravery) subject teaching in all bama schools. Unfortunately and pitifully, there is no Shan school in Burma. Or Thebow king has Shan blood but defected by British easily as well.

          • Norman, This insurgence activities has started since the days of independent. Every sovereign government needs to uphold the law and order in the first place. To hold a talk between the government and rebels group, there is a need of having genuine and understandable people who have enough knowledge in talking about peace and unity of the country instead of what they “WANT”. This is domestic affair nothing to do with international involvement (though it was heavily supported and provided aids by the former colonialists). Asking UN official present to be witnessed in peace negotiation. Have you ever learned that how many of UN involvements are failure and even biased all over the world? Almost every conflicts started from domestic dispute, as soon as UN and so called international policing watchdogs getting involved everything boiled over and ended up in never ending civil war.
            The government also have right not to meet the demands that may become standard precedent and harm the unity of the sovereign state in any means, threatening the security of the state and the lack of human resources management.
            Requesting Irrawaddy to publish the demands of KIA and the outcomes of negotiation are not as simple as you think. Demands can not be made like a little child asking for food and toys. KIA needs to know exactly what they are fighting for instead of claiming this is our land, our properties, etc. The former colonialists made things more complicated and divided the people by so called missionaries and pushed Aung San into difficulty position by demanding to prove as a sole representative of Burma during the independent process. The treaty was made by the law makers who were still under the influence of the former rulers and some of the clauses were purposely lead to the disunity of the country and threatened the security of the country. Somehow, people had misinterpreted, couldn’t wait for the due time and unpreparedness to go ahead by own interpretations. It was the beginning of the down of this country’s economy and the rise of military government.
            This is not the time for pointing finger at each other fault. Whoever has started it is time to make peace but anyone making accusation or comments must know exactly what you are thinking, doing and more importantly you must understand the root of all problems instead of jumping into the middle of the circus with fire ring.
            Sai Lin Kan has not made any demand to KIA. He only made a suggestion in his very simple and clear English. There are different ways to describe the meaning of the terms used in the passage. That’s my understanding of his (Sai Lin Kan) presentation.
            I believe that you have missed out one or two generations of what you have heard (not experienced) today. You have heavily used the words invading the land, obligation of panglong agreement, cease fire proposal, rapist Than Shwe, Burma military thugs and so on. It was pity to read your post in public forum and easy to understand that you are too emotional, influenced by racially motivated hatred against Burmese, immature, foul mouthed and uneducated by the parents. Learn to be more civilised and resourceful in public forum my son.

  6. She is not a president yet to involve in the government works. She is just a MP still. There are limitations for MPs to get involved in the cabinet and military affairs in all democratic countries in the world. Myanmar is not the one. I wish our people would have this kind of knowledge to understand what the Government jobs and MPs jobs. People are needed to be educated in many things. Otherwise, they will never be able to make right judgements. They will live with negative views for another years.

  7. Nobody’s asking for her to interfere with the work of other parliamentary committees. One would expect however to voice her concerns and bring on a debate in the chambers as a conscientious parliamentarian on any matter of nationwide importance and urgency. Agreed it is not just a matter for MPs. It affects and concerns us all, ethnic and Bamar alike. But frankly there’s no need to wait for her to participate let alone lead in this either. It’s down to all of us to stand up and speak out, taking part in peace protests across the land.

    • Dear M
      I fully agree with you that all Burmese should go out to the street for demonstration to than shwe and min aung laing bama in nation wide to force to honor the the panglong treaty. Reinstate of economic sanction by US, EU is the real potential threat on all Burmese people so bama military thugs are criminals in history in this ethnic issue from their unfair handling. Unable to solving ethnic issues will cause serious consequence as all Businesses in ethnic lands are illegal now.

      • Why don’t you go back home and start this demonstration? What you are doing (writing comments) today is just like “Pa Soe Chone Hte Ga Let Thi Pya” in Burmese proverb. If you dare. go home and do it yourself instead of a creature making noise from outside of the fence.

        • Bill
          Are you guarantee that than shwe and thein sein will not kill monks any more from our demonstration against bama military thugs? However, monks are not fear your gun, your lie and your challenge. It will not be long to come to kill you ( war criminals) by Burmese people power. If you are fear of ethnic ( phobia) , you should find the way how to hide behind the China and Russian veto cards.

        • I’ve gotta tell you. Your comments read like editorials of The New Light of Myanmar. Most of your posts are personal attacks and hogwash.

          Why don’t you go out and demonstrate to show your support for the armed cowards? You are enjoying the generosity of a liberal medium outlet which allows commentary as long as profanity is not used. Yet you want to shout down different opinions. Is this the best the Burmese education can produce? Your behavior contradicts what you have been propagandizing–ethnic minorities peacefully live side by side with Burmen. It is obvious that they are not speaking up because of the type of intimidation that you are displaying in this forum.

          If you don’t want to hear differing opinions, you’d better stick to military-run media, and stay away from forums like this. I’m sure they run stories of your liking 24/7.

  8. Culture of violence is the only way of Burma army,they never learn to respect the human right.All their history of violence, human right abuse and mistreatment cause the prolong civil war and man made tragedy. we can not reform the Burma without changing their attitude.

    • When did you learn the terms such as ” cultural of violence, respect the human rights, human right abuse, mistreatment causes the prolong civil war, man made tragedy?
      Reformation of a party or a country as a whole needs support, understanding and selflessness of all parties concerned. Constantly creating instability of any region by any excuse is unacceptable. Instead of accusing the government for not negotiating with them for peace all party must be transparent with the agenda which is reasonable to open dialogue with the government. Don’t blame the government alone, look on to the side who is power hungry and faceless.

      • how can you even apply the words ‘understanding and selflessness’ to burman military with a straight face? SMH

      • It should be quite obvious to most people that the Burman government and their generals are treating the Kachins quite differently from the other ethnic groups of Burma and their lands. They’ve already sucked every ounce of treasure and natural resources from the other groups. But these ‘generals’ and their allies in China, along with their cronies in Burma are still ravenous for the many treasures and natural resources still left in the magnificient Kachin State. For this ‘bandit’ government, it’s all about feeding their benevolent masters – past and present.

      • Patronizing and chauvinist if I may say so. Power hungry the Lady now is, definitely not faceless. It’s the elephant in the room. The powerful has the greater moral responsibility to take the initiative for peace. More support, understanding and selflessness (sacrifice ) on the part of the people may be asking a tiny bit too much? Haven’t they suffered long enough, especially the minorities?

      • Asking unfair demand of border guard force, totally controlled by than shwe is the reason for killing Kachin by bama military thugs. Setting the nargic-than shwe 2008 constitution is causal killing right for rapist than shwe. Invasion to Kachin land is by bama military thugs. If bama military thugs wants to reform , delete above 2008 constitution and stopping invasion of Kachin land.
        Negotiation, unilaterally designed by bama military thugs without political dialogue ( panglong treaty ) is poisonous words from tricky bama military thugs. If bama military thugs want to negotiate with Kachin, get out from Kachin home and land first before telling about the non-sense rubbish words , like low born “Bill”.

  9. What the people of burma and especially the Western Media should know is that Daw Suu is still in the negotiating position with the Present government and that she has limited authority to change things. Burmese people must understand where she stands and stop criticizing her for nothing. Daw Suu has done her part more than anymore else as a Burmese citizen and she still needs our support but not useless discouraging criticism. 60 million Burmese people must work hard like Daw Suu, in order for us to have a democratic society. There is no other way!

    • This really is a clever message. It means “no violence”. If you begin with violence there will be a chance to face consequences. The people who are crying foul against the government today must look at themselves who, where and when did created all these obstacles. to peace and harmony of this country.

      • the clear message from the burman government is that they want to rob and steal as much as possible while they can.

      • Bill should look itself in the mirror or dirty water because bill does not know the Panglong treaty, idiot U nu’s twisted panglong agreement as well as bill’s support of Nargic-rapist than shwe constitution. Coward bill only fear of the consequence of violence because bill wants to warn about the more death of Buddhist monks by bama military thugs and possible imprisonment of DASSK in the respect of violence with bama military thugs. How can we be in harmony if ming aung laing army invades and kills Kachin without apparent reasons all of the sudden after peaceful 17 years ceasefire agreement , designed by Khin nyunt and rapist than shwe who wants to correct and dishonor this ceasefire agreement. However, bill does not and can not address the reasons of those changes from bama military thugs all of the sudden.

        • Norman, I believe some people need to be more civilised in public forum instead of calling names to other when they run out of facts and repeating on what they heard from media or hearsay from someone else. For your information there is nothing such as Kachin land and lands belong to Kachin. This country is known as “The union of Myanmar” and there is government responsible to look after it. Use the correct terms before you write comments. If you doubt learn more of the history and find out yourself who is who instead of reciting on what other says. The country and its authority has right to uphold the unity and stability of the country. Whoever has threatened the unity and stability of the country be treated accordingly. Would you agree if the native Americans demand for their own land and authority, local Malays demand their own land in Singapore, Aboriginal demand their own land in Australia? What would you say? Learn what really is happening in the land where you are today and enjoy with it if you can’t contribute anything positive in developing of our country.

          • To “bill”
            Do you know Australian government makes apology for their wrong doing on Aborigines? Do you know how Australian government treat very well on Aborigines now? Let Aborigine judges on those treatment. Do you want to say American should not make apology on red Indian? If so, i will not support this fact. Do you want to say to me thein sein ( rapist than shwe puppet ) can make Burma to be like superpower American very soon after occupying all ethnic lands? Give me the reasons with how, when, where and what.
            Singapore independence is offered by Malay’s government itself in history.
            Do you want to say from the above references that Bama ( more populated than all ethnics) has right to occupy and invade low populated ethnics’ land? If so, China or Indian or Bangladesh can invade and occupy Burma anytime.
            bill wrote”The country and its authority has right to uphold the unity and stability of the country” Does bill want to say DASSK’s election victory is not valid to be Burmese authority but rapist than shwe’s election victory , including Nargic-than shwe 2008 constitution is the real Burmese authority now?. Do you want to say DASSK or Min Ko Naing does not know how to make Burma to be like American very soon?. Do you want to say DASSK and min ko naing have bad record in history ( human right abuse, corruption, uneducated and not being a soldier-no military training in notorious DSA)?.

          • To Norman,

            You are talking about Australian history and try to tell me how Aboriginal people are treated by the government. Looking into the history they are systematically wiped out from the face of the earth? The apology was made as a political stunt by the newly elected prime minister after over two hundred years of invasion and by that time almost none left on earth as a strong group. They have been weaken by providing few pennies for living. Do you know how many aboriginals died in the jail for patty crimes? Have you ever learnt about stolen generation? The government and every authorities know about the aboriginal people’s anatomy system as they are vulnerable to withstand alcohol and drugs but the authority ignored the facts and let them continue using freely.
            They are doing it today just to show the world as they are caring for those true native people but they never have thought of given them a state of their own. On top of all these facts, the aboriginal are peace loving and self satisfied people unlike other rebels and terrorists causing trouble to the country with violence since the day of independent. If you wish to know more about this issue I am very glad to discuss with you more.
            I guess you have some knowledge about your uncle Sam, I believe that I don’t need to enlightened you with more information.
            And about Singapore and Malaysia you still need to go further research about what really was happened between Malay, Chinese Malay and their former colonialist British It is interesting to know more about the real history instead of reading the cover of the book. More over, you will need to carryout research on different perspectives on any of the events that you are interested.
            The situation in “The Union of Myanmar” is different from what you have thought and heard. There is a country which gained independent from the colonialists in 1948. Since 1949 the rebels supported by the former colonialists began insurgence activities by ruining public properties and tried to cripple the country’s economy. They made unreasonable demands just to avoid negotiation with the government. They declared war against sovereign government with the support of foreign elements and used (still using) innocent people as human shield at war front. Now they are repeatedly using cut and paste propaganda from uncle Sam and his allied such as ” been raped, tortured, looting, ethnic cleansing, human right abuse, child soldiers, invasion, religious suppression, etc.
            For your information, you can stick to the point instead of beating around the bush by everything mixing up. Take sometime and learn more of what you are trying to say in public instead of copying from what other said with or without facts.
            If you are too serious about this issue. go home and do something positive instead of making yourself “Way lay lay politician”

  10. A world wide call for end to air strikes and artillery should be backed called for and backed by the NLD and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi.

  11. Daw Suu is awake from her long silence sleep! There is a saying in Burma “built a ladder after a child fall”. Just like we greatly appreciate every walk of live concern on the war in Kachin, we appreciate her making comment as well after many blood shed and countless lives at risk. But we really bother me is her saying ” I’ve limitted power as MP, I am not in ethnic committe, I have to respect other people work”. If we put this in a very simple term, she basically is saying “This is not my job!”. We don’t need to be educated on her role in MP. Great leader never have boundry. Now she is in the boundry of making friends with cronies and ignoring the poor people suffering. I am sorry for the people of Burma, especially ethnic nationalities. Burma need a new Hero.

    • The most appropriate proverb is ” calling mother in vain after fallen” Kha Loke Hti Hma Ah Mi Tah. You are talking about great leader. Could you mention how many great leaders you found in the group you supported and their profile of what they do good for the people of their own. I would be very glad to read more of their profiles (true profiles). We don’t need hero to save the country what we need is the people who can make good judgements to make the country moving forward. We also don’t need the people who only know talking and writing nonsense comments without positive contribution and wasting time.

      • i don’t know how many great leaders which ethnic groups produce, but i know it for sure that there has never been a great leader coming out of burman race, including ASSK.

      • Let me count for you. You had good leaders. Golone U Saw, Ne Win, Than Shwe and Min Aung Hlaing.

      • Neither you bill, sorry. I think you better shut your pie hole unless you understand the burmese history and the conflict. We’re all loyal and patriotic, but your patriotism step the wrong way.

        • In what way? If you have the facts, prove it or contribute something positive. Don’t just say thing for the sake of hatred against either Burmese or the government or for your own popularity in the society as a way lay lay politician. You may enjoy your life abroad after claiming yourself refugee for your own good. May I remind you with all my respect, post your comments like a civilised and educated person.

      • Coward Bill “judgemnt”
        You , bill still does not and can not yet give the opinion or judgement on the Penglong treaty, U Nu’s twisted panglong treaty as well as idiot U nu’s Buddhinization of Burma against Kachin with making use of true Buddhism. You still does not judge on why DASSK can not be president of Burma although she won the Burmese election. You, bill does not and can not judge on Nargic-rapist than shwe constitution is fair or not. Why rapist than shwe dishonor his previous ceasefire agreement , designed by himself and Khin Nyunt. If you can not judge or answer those question , your opinions here are low standard compared to most here. Think those judgements and answers before you write everything here.

        • Calling name again. Ask your parents to teach you a little more civilised. If you run out of the facts to prove yourself who understands well enough of what really is happening instead of just picking up the pieces out of the context. Probably your dad may help you find out the facts. If you can’t remember who your father was, approach every man walking pass on the street. DNA matching might help as well.

          • bill wrote on 21-1-2013 (1):”The treaty ( Panglong treaty) was made by the law makers who were still under the influence of the former rulers and some of the clauses were purposely lead to the disunity of the country and threatened the security of the country.”
            (2) “Asking UN official present to be witnessed in peace negotiation. Have you ever learned that how many of UN involvements are failure and even biased all over the world? ”
            (3)”If you can’t remember who your father was, approach every man walking pass on the street. DNA matching might help as well.”
            (4)”I believe that you have missed out one or two generations of what you have heard (not experienced) today. You have heavily used the words invading the land, obligation of panglong agreement, cease fire proposal, rapist Than Shwe, Burma military thugs and so on. IIt was pity to read your post in public forum and easy to understand that you are too emotional, influenced by racially motivated hatred against Burmese, immature, foul mouthed and uneducated by the parents. Learn to be more civilised and resourceful in public forum my son.Learn to be more civilised and resourceful in public forum my son.”
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            -Panglong agreement is initiated and signed by General Aung san(GAS). Does “bill” want to say GAS is idiot so he signed this Panglong agreement, unfair to notorious U nu government and rapist bama military thugs?
            -bill might also supports in killing GAS because GAS made a wrong kyat slogan lip service-equal right in each ethnic and bama. bill also wants to say GAS was forced in the corner by former colonist to initiate and sign Panglong agreement. GAS should be killed or it was not easy to revoke Panglong agreement by U nu and Ne win if GAS was alive.
            -U Nu made use of Buddhism for Buddhisnization of Burma against Kachin after all British army left from Burma upon independence. Because Kachin first declares the conquer on Japanese occupation in Burma for Burma independence before GAS.
            -Therefore, bill wants to say panglong agreement is unfair for his ( bill) U nu. In addition, it is fair and civilized for him (U nu & bill) that there are no ethnic languages teaching in Burmese schools because of the all ethnic threat on him( bill and U nu) after Burmese independence. However, the phobia bill might know that the total population of bama is more than that of all ethnics in Burma.
            -Ne win killed the Rangoon University students because of threat of unity of Burma ( like Panglong agreement with the influence of former rulers-British colony).
            -Rapist Than shwe killed the Buddhist monks because monks did not learn well about the unity of Burma, like there is a threat of unity of Burma in the Panglong agreement.
            -China and Russian used their veto cards in UN for rapist Than shwe’s survival for killing more monks and all ethnics. If “bill” said UN is useless , ask your friends China and Russian do not use veto cards next time for than shwe, ming aung laing and thein sein for air strike on own people. I am not the one who starts and calls than shwe is rapist ( see in Irrawaddy news and numerous UN reports).

            -bill wants to be a father of all around the world people if all those make against his opinion and comment ( see No. 4 in his writing to me). If so, bill is not civilized because bill wants all other people’s wives according to Buddhism teaching. bill learns this non-civilized behavior from the U nu’s way of Buddhisnization. bill is also too emotional on the “lie” detector machine as well as low self-esteem because of lack of common sense. bill claims himself as older than us so he has more knowledge than young and new generation, like us. However, the Burmese history information and documents are still in the hands of British and India who ruled Burma in the past. Which kind of generation of mobile phone does bill use to make against us( Not Apple, not Nokia, not HTC in new generation but USDP and rapist than shwe’s lair mouth)? Where does ethnic phobia-bill learn colony English and who is bill’s teachers and who are bill’s parents?

          • My dear son Norman,
            Some people easily gets hurt when they are treated as they treated other. I guess someone have very short memory for using obscene language over other in public forum. I only posted this message to know someone and the ability of professional judgement. You have failed the test my son.
            Now let us go into the business talk, Check the history of the documents held by the authority.

            ((( Panglong agreement is initiated and signed by General Aung san(GAS). Does “bill” want to say GAS is idiot so he signed this Panglong agreement, unfair to notorious U nu government and rapist bama military thugs?)))

            Before I continue let me ask you to take a glance at what you have written above.

            How many unpleasant terms that you used in immature and unethical comments? This has been repeated several time in other posts as well. This means you have run out of the sources, lack of knowledge in this subject and turning personal attack on other.
            Adding onto your incomplete and underrated sources I would like to add more information for you to learn “Yes, Panglong agreement was forced to make by the pressure of former colonialists (Do you have any knowledge of Aung San’s visit to England for independent negotiation with colonialists?) I am not quiet sure whether you have any knowledge of other demand made by the colonialists in order to continue on independent talks. Aung San was caught up with two huge tasks which the culprits have expected he would failed. Somehow, he sacrificed his name just for the sake of the independent and complete both tasks without hesitation. He knows there was no time and which one is more important to attempt without delay or bargaining before the colonialists made attempt to influence over some hollow headed so called leaders.
            Do you really know what those tasks are? If not, learn more history and ask someone who may be able to help you out of the dark instead of reciting the same in every posts.

            ((( U Nu made use of Buddhism for Buddhisnization of Burma against Kachin after all British army left from Burma upon independence. Because Kachin first declares the conquer on Japanese occupation in Burma for Burma independence before GAS.)))

            Myanmar uphold Buddhism more than thousands years ago and the majority of the people follow Buddhism and some parts of the country has no religion or follow traditional and spiritual worship. This country welcome other religious belief without hesitation and no discrimination. Since the British invaded this country thing turned out nasty. They have created rift within the nation in the name of religion, brainwashed and divided the people for their own good. If you want to discuss about religious intolerance in this country and across the globe including past and the present I will be glad to feed you with more information. I don’t really understanding in the extract of what you posted above. I guess you wouldn’t either. Read carefully what you have written.
            Do you know how many Kachins getting involve in the independent movement from both British and Japanese occupations such as “Thirty commorades” or any important role? I don’t want to open the old wound by picking this point. Everyone remember how difficult it was when the nation joined the Japanese to get rid of the British. Who were the ones loyal to colonialists and turned the guns against own national forces trying to get rid of British?

            ((( bill wants to be a father of all around the world people if all those make against his opinion and comment ( see No. 4 in his writing to me). If so, bill is not civilized because bill wants all other people’s wives according to Buddhism teaching. bill learns this non-civilized behavior from the U nu’s way of Buddhisnization. bill is also too emotional on the “lie” detector machine as well as low self-esteem because of lack of common sense.)))

            This is your interpretation within your knowledge but I did not make this assumption to be someone as you mentioned. Certainly, I wish not to be your father at all. You are assuming that only non Christians are uncivilised.Remember “Thou shalt not make judgement against other until he stands before me”. Read your bible verses and contemplate them, try to behave like a good Christian as you think you are.

            Have you ever noticed in any of my post which consists of calling names, using obscene language or making judgement in order to attack personally?

            Read more, learn more and practice more on what you preach.

            ((( Which kind of generation of mobile phone does bill use to make against us( Not Apple, not Nokia, not HTC in new generation but USDP and rapist than shwe’s lair mouth)? Where does ethnic phobia-bill learn colony English and who is bill’s teachers and who are bill’s parents?)))

            Someone thinks that IT revolution and Innovation of Technology (I am not quite sure whether you understand those meanings or not) would help them look smarter in human society. I would advise you my son, make yourself more useful in the society and learn (not only copy and paste technology) to live in peace and tranquility.

  12. Well, if she is not willing to stand up for the victims/ethnics but is interested only in justifying her stand and hold on to her holier-than-thou attitude towards the ethnics, she should just continue keeping mum rather than speak dubious words and thus deepen the wounds of the ethnics.

    I only have one question for her:(not that i will get to ask, but anyway)
    “Does your conscience never ever move when you keep on collecting awards and yet refuse to let alone condemn, (mind you, condemn) the aggression of the Burmese army against the ethnics, who are only asking for their rights to be restored which they are promised when they join the Union of Burma.”

  13. There is war going on in Kachin , because of some of Kachin racism , they try to cut off one finger from hand , they not see anything unless what they want , actually they are not presence to all Kachin people , always stay quiet and sample life nature , please all nationality will understand this situation . Don’t try to be hero , we are same and still the same , stay together to make nation development .
    Power came from hand and we still need finger to holdup. This is our country .

    • don’t mean to be rude. you should stick to burmese language forum if you can’t converse proficiently in english. i’m sure most people who post in this forum can read burmese, too.

      allow me to reply to what I think you tried to say.

      the kachin are trying to kick out the intruders just like burmen kicked out the british intruders ~60 years ago. nobody like to live under colonial rule. if any fingers came off kachin hands, it’s called battle scars from their just and brave struggles against the burman colonialists.

      • Kindly please explain the terms “intruders, burmen, colonial rule and burman colonialist. You may explain them in simple and clear English as many of us on this forum are not born and brought up in overseas or born in pro British era. I am not aware of the existence of a country called “Kachin” and it was invaded by any other countries. What I learnt in the history was the existence of the country known as “The union of Myanmar” with only one government and the rebels groups have been constantly causing trouble and lead to the down fall of this country. I am not sure of how many crazy people have realised to live in peace with the rest of the country.

        • You’ll understand the meaning of those words after you get rid of your tunnel vision. What you see is the perceived union of Myanmar, which may exist in the heart of Burmen, but not in the mind of many ethnic minorities including the Kachin. How can you claim that the Burman armed group is the government of the perceived union? Is it because they have killed the most people? You keep saying that all of the ethnic groups are peacefully living together with Burmen. How sure are you that they are satisfied living under Burman rule? I don’t see any referendum or survey results that prove your claim coming out of Burma. The only reports I read at unbiased online media like Irrawaddy Magazine are that burman military attacking ethnic armies using any method at their disposal, including, but not limited to, rapes and infanticide. Is this the the burman way of establishing legitimacy?

          • You may need to learn how to read the map that is recognised globally and how to read the name of the country that is recognised globally. For those who don’t understand cause and effects of these situation are somhow needed more education. Some people are just woken up, browsed through internet, sat in front of the TV, listened to what other says, jumped into band wagon, copy and paste few lines for making comments as their own. It doesn’t make you understand everything about what is happening. Law and order must be upheld and authority needs to remove any obstacles who are threatening the stability of the country.
            Do you support the policy of government, where you are living now? Do you remember the word “preemptive strike” and their action against the innocents even way out of the country? If so, clearing of insurgence activities inside the country may not be the questionable.
            There are more percentage of ethnic people living together withe rest in the country. You can’t deny it (may be you don’t know it) Why? Those are the facts you missed out because you are only relying on readily available media outlet rather than own research and wider reading. Those people are sick and tired of their own so called leaders who are thoughtless and fanatics.
            Talking about rapes and torture, it is interesting to discuss. There are more cases inside the camps than at the war front. Many women are carrying fatherless babies inside the camps. Who are the culprits?
            Only solution is that they need to lay down the weapons first instead of giving rubbish excuses. What they don’t realise is why does the majority of their own people left their land and living together with so called their enemy.

    • Joe wrote:”we ( Kachin and Burmese) are same and still the same , stay together to make nation development .”
      Point to me where is the Kachin language teaching in the school? Where is the Kachin day , attended by idiot U nu, notorious Ne win , rapist Than shwe and puppet thein sein and min aung laing? Kachin is originally ruled by Kachin themselves but Kachin trusts Aung San equal kyat slogan ( lip service only now) so join the union of Burma in Panglong agreement. Than shwe sold Kachin land to China for jade and building hydropower without offering Kachin portion. Kachin is the first to declare to conquer Japanese invasion before Aung San and before Japanese surrender in WW2. One Japanese claim that Aung San army killed brave Japanese unarmed soldiers after Japanese surrender from the order of their king emperor. Chinese nationalist army won brave Japanese army in crucial battle in Myitkyina street to street fight for the freedom of Burma and India from Japanese occupation. Burma independence hero are Kachin and Chinese nationalist army in fact, not lip service bama army , like you.

  14. Who the hell are you Bill? Among all commentators, you are the worse one I have ever seen. Every Burmese citizen born in Burma pay the price for more than half a century under military rule and so called stability without justice or conscience. If you don’t see it you are the stupid one and no one elese. People have rights to criticize anyone they want to criticize. It is universal human rights. Why can’t some one criticize Aung San Suu Kyi? Is it because she is the popular figure? Is it because of she is Aung San daughter? Is it because she secrifice her family for her own believe? She chose to do what she did. No one asked her to get involve in politic in 1988 uprising. Now that the people like you make her out some one special without asking logical question will take us back to the dark age. If we can’t speak the truth, what differences are there than Ne Win regime and Aung San Suu Kyi group? Are you guys planing to introduce new kind of tyranny in Burma? I sacrifice alot myself for Burma too. I don’t need to waving my history and what I did for my country to make myself popular. I lost the close relationship with my family. I saw my old age mother just twice since I left Burma. The first time was just 3 days and each day was just about 6 hours. The second time was not too long ago when Thein Sein open up the country. I thank Thein Sein for some of the changes he has done, but for the whole Burma, what we see now is not nearely enough. You still can say that the price we pay is nothing compare to Aung San Suu Kyi. Let me tell you some thing, all generations after independence never had a chance to study good education inside Burma. How about Aung San Suu Kyi? She attended Oxford in England and she met her late husband there. Is it sacrifice? Every citizen of Burma never knew a decent life except some corrupt special class. I know a decent living and life in western country now. How I get to western country is nothing to do with ASSK Noble Peace Prize? There is some decent western countries who has simpathy to suffering people around the world and protecting human life from danger and that is how I am in the west country. I respect old Aung San Suu Kyi who has very similar idealogy with me, however she has changed. I do not understand her anymore. As a philosophy student from Oxford University, ASSK should know the word “Morality” better than any Burmese people. I believe she is intoxicated with power and popularity. If she lost in touch with general populace in Burma, she will lost herself too. Leader always comes and goes, what left is people, country, and history. Since her release from her house arrest, I am confused the lady that I knew before and the woman that I see today. What really going on will only know herself. If a leader is lack of the quality of a leader, can she be a leader? If she doesn’t even speak out the truth and get involve for the life and death of the citizens, what kind of leader will she be if she hold the power. On the other hand she has time to defend cronies of Burma. What a joke!!!!!!

    • I bet his full name is Bill Thein Sein.

    • This Bill may not be the other Bill but Nargis Than Shwe’s Bill from Burma.

    • Dear Tom
      I just cheer DASSK for her lip service. The lip service from general aung san’s equal kyat slogan is very effective for inclusion of sincere Kachin to be union of Burma under Panglong agreement. Let see what is the effect of DASSK’s lip service and what she will do for Burma in future ( bamanization or obligation of Panglong treaty). Wait and see on the silver screen.
      You are dared to go back to Burma upon the trust of thein sen’s encouragement and thein sein’s request for help from oversea Burmese returnee. Now, be careful to accept and apply permanent stay status of Burma from thein sein lip service. Like panglong agreement, all agreement or immigration law are faked and you, with permanent status will be necessary to serve for border guard force but first you need to be trained in Insein prison. Therefore , let Japanese, Chinese and cronies go to invest in Burma instead of oversea Burmese returnee.

    • Don’t tell me all citizen born in Myanmar pay the price for what happened in this country. Some people are enjoying their luxurious life out of this situation. They slipped out of the country by any means and made up stories to gain access to other country. They are simply opportunists and Way lay lay politicians, making no contribution towards the progress of the country and howling from the outside of the fence. Only hatred against the government don’t make the progress. History of someone can be written from many perspectives that depends on time and the nature of influences. Everyone who has the brain knows that how this Nobel Peace Prize works. This country don’t need hero, it only need the people who are united and genuinely care for the progress of the country. If you are one of those, go home and start a fresh as you boasted slight opened and shut.

  15. DASSK may be suffering from mild dementia as she told last week that Kachin conflict upto the goverment and now changjng the tune to stop the shelling immedately.

  16. George Than Setkyar Heine

    “Burmese opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi, under fire for her silence over the escalating conflict in Kachin State said fighting between ethnic Kachin rebels and the Burmese armed forces should “stop immediately.”
    Finally, she has BLURTED OUT something in that regard!
    And that is NOT ENOUGH as well I say.
    She is an ELECTED MEMBER of PARLIAMENT, HEAD of the NLD and LEADER of the OPPOSITION no less as well.
    Hence, she DOES NOT NEED an INVITATION to POSE/BRING UP the MATTER in the PARLIAMENT as well because Min Aung Hlaing is USING BANNED WEAPONS (jet fighters, helicopted gunships, heavy artillery etc.) on the KIA NOT TO MENTION KILLING INNOCENT and UNARMED PEOPLE by LOBBING HEAVY ARTILLERY SHELLS into CIVILIANS as well.
    She has been GIVEN MANDATE by the PEOPLE to DO the RIGHT THING specifically, DEFEND ALL CITIZENRY in BURMA including the Kachins who are LIVING IN FEAR of Min Aung Hlaing’s hordes SHELLING the Kachins and practically at the GATED of LAIZA, the last stronghold of the KIA/Kachins.today.
    Daw Suu has the RIGHT, OBLIGATION and DUTY to INTERVENE in this matter as ABSDF, the students army, born out of the 8888 Nationwide Uprisings for DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM is HOLDING HANDS with the KIA and DEFENDING the Kachin State from FALLING INTO THE HANDS OF Min Aung Hlaing, China chosen C-in-C of the BURMA ARMY, acting as the PROXY of the communists in Beijing and TASKED with SECURING the Kachin State in order that Chinese communists’ interests (Myitsone Dam Project, rails, roads, pipelines etc.) could CONTINUE and meet their DEADLINE in 2013.
    The FALL of LAIZA would DOOM both the KIA and ABSDF as well, lest Daw Suu forgets.
    And Daw Suu RODE to Naypyidaw on the 8888 Nationwide Uprising Train as well, don’t argue I say!
    Hence, it would be a GROSS BETRAYAL on the part of the ELECTED and CHOSEN LEADER of BURMA in case SHE LETS DOWN the ABSDF defending Laiza (Kachin State) and in turn Burma as well from China’s PROXY Min Aung Hlaing USING EXCESSIVE FORCE/BANNED WEAPONS as well in order to SAFEGUARD the Chinese communists’ interest in Kachin State today.
    Daw Suu should OPENLY and STRONGLY PROTEST Min Aung Hlaing’s hordes ATTACKING LAIZA today in ALL CERTAIN TERMS no less as well.
    And CALLING for EU, UN and US INTERVENTION as well on the part of Daw Suu would be BEST and NON-NEGOTIALBLE as well citing USE of BANNED WEAPONS and KILLING INNOCENT and UNARMED PEOPLE at the moment.
    FAILING TO DO THIS WOULD CONDEMN HER to the LOWEST BOWELS of HELL, politically specifically for LETTING DOWN the ABSDF in particular and the Kachins as well lest she forgets.

  17. We are not to compare a footprint between an ant and a giant. There are many people who laydown their lives for the sake of Burma, but not known by the world and their story is burried in the ground silenced forever as junta wishes. As giant as Daw Suu, she has done many great things for Burma in her underhouse arrest, mainly being a vocal for the people of Burma, and her story is highlighted in every international news. The giant footprint is much bigger than the ant but the ant’s sacrifice is not to be neglected at all! Daw Suu was vigorous and dedicated to the people of Burma and a fierce vocal for justice while in her underhouse arrest. But as a free lady and elected MP, she should be even a stronger leader but chose to silent in a variety of major issues, i.e war in Kachin, Rhohinya, business deal between China and cronies that doesn’t bear the interest of Burmese citizen. There is much to be reconsidered about her nowaday.

  18. Hollow Vessel. Wat a flop she has turned out to be, typical BamaH

  19. I don’t think she’s neglecting anything. As a leader, she has to be careful on what she said. I will rather look into pratical solution rather than using words to work. She’s trying her best to invovle in all matters. But think about it, for us sitting down here and typing is easy. As a leader she has to solve it for real. I think many of us here believe in words and work. She might need time, there issues are around for serverals years ago. She’s not god to solve in short period and she doesn’t have enough power to do so as well. We all have to be united and look into constructive solutions rather than blaming each other. I’m burmese and I see all ethinic group in holistic view. That’s what we have taught in our school. I don’t think any Burmese here discrimanate other ethnic group as well. We have to think of ways to let her help us.

    It is so easy to blame and criticize others. Only when you try to imagine yourself to be in their shoes, would you come to realize the root of their behaviour. Behaviour breeds behaviour

  20. [email protected]

    Salai Lian, there is no ant and there is no giant in the bettle of debate. It may be true to your clouded mind and small thinking man like you. Free society can not built on one popular person. It can only built on logical freedom agree by every individual within society. Tyranny politic is built on popularity, power and corrupt system. If you don’t believe me study Napoleon, Lenin, Sterlin, Hitler and many dictators of the world who run the country with iron fist. However, the history is not only the faults of those tyrant but the people like you fail to ask the legitimate questions of their leaders’ actions. Nature of the people is if they can get away with one time they will repeat again with bigger and more destructive power. The duty of the society is to ask questions and scrutinize the actions of the leaders. If Aung San Suu Kyi doesn’t like it she can quit any time. Just like she said “Burma can not depend on other country to come and change it for Burma”. In the same token Burma can not depend on just one leader to change it for Burma. We have to change it together, we can not fail to ask legitimate question. We can not leg ourself behind the popularity of the leading figure. If a leader is start doing stupid mistake, we have to ask the legitimate question. It is not because we hate her, it is because we love our country more than we love one person.

  21. There’s a creditably problem with the military hardliners; for 4 decades, they’ve never spoken the truth. Despite the majority being Buddhists, they prefer to have blood on their hands. Even the reform minded President is unable to change them. So sad, everyday I prayed to God that their souls suffer in hell eternally.

  22. The roles and responsibilties of the army of all countries in the world is to protect the lands and territories from foreign invaders and keep peacefull for their own people to enjoy. Burma armies are the worst human kinds of all, they killed, raped, tortured, lied, and destroyied their own people for over 60 years. The world and no one should have not trusted the Burmese armies and government and must cometoghether to put all of them in jail for their actions.

  23. To “bill”
    Bill wrote on 21-1-2013 “Norman, This insurgence activities has started since the days of independent.”
    My reply to bill: If so, give me the reason with documented evidence or else. Bill should not avoid me to answer this question because Irrawaddy can get strange news from you.
    If U nu fully honors the panglong agreement since the days of independence, there is no insurgence activities. Kachin are sincere, brave, smart and intelligent.
    bill wrote on 21-1-2013 ”The treaty ( Panglong treaty-PT) was made by the law makers who were still under the influence of the former rulers and some of the clauses were purposely lead to the disunity of the country and threatened the security of the country.”
    Bill wrote on 21-1-2013 “Norman, I believe some people need to be more civilised in public forum instead of calling names to other when they run out of facts and repeating on what they heard from media or hearsay from someone else. For your information there is nothing such as Kachin land and lands belong to Kachin. This country is known as “The union of Myanmar” and there is government responsible to look after it. Use the correct terms before you write comments.
    My reply to bill: The old and old generation “bill” strangely writes the new finding and information which will shake the world. Because bill writes General Aung san’s (GAS) initiated, designed and signed Panglong agreement is unfair to U nu. GAS is too idiot to be killed by Bama U saw, GAS’s relative to revoke the Panglong agreement. Some Kachin also does not like Panglong agreement so bill wrote to me “Norman, This insurgence activities has started since the days of independent.”
    My comment to bill: bill is out of logical and common sense with showing his inconsistency. PT is not good in both sides so U nu and some Kachin has been fighting since the days of independence because PT is only favored for British colony. However, all British authorities in Burma left for their country, UK after Burma independence. We, new generation wants to hear your ( bill) new , modified Burmese history more.
    You told me I repeat the same information ( PT, GAS’s kyat slogan, Kachin land,Kachin right, idiot U nu, notorious Ne win, rapist than shwe ). However, you, bill finally answers my questions after my repetition to you. Because weak “bill” is intolerant from his broken mind by me from the true logical facts. Bill repeat to me about ( peace negotiation without PT, violent in kachin-but killing monks and own bama is not violent by than shwe and DASSK-incapable of Burmese authority due to unfair election winner but thein sein (than shwe puppet ) is capable of Burmese authority due to fair election. Kachin is also incapable to rule their lands because bama military thugs’ military power is stronger than Kachin. Because bill might support Australian and American have right to occupy Australian land and American land respectively upon their strong military power on native people. Bill uses Australian and American history as references. If so, military might-Chinese has right to rule Burma now. Thein sein’s face and than shwe’s face are different so they both are not the same ( does bill want to say in that way so trust thein sien?) You are repeating the same and the same because you, bill thinks people around the world are naïve.
    In short, bill should not mislead world people. Bill should appear in this column after studying proper Burmese history from British , Japanese, all ethnics and Rangoon university for having right education and analytical skills. Bill must know Ne win and than shwe are not from Rangoon university. After General Aung San’s ’s death, U nu forgot Rangoon university teaching which is origin from British colony in Khit-kaung ( the best century of Burma). Are you, racist ,bill jealous kachin rich land or do you think Kachin are naïve and incapable to rule their own land by themselves? Do you think kachin needs more populated bama military thugs for ruling their land for unity? Do you think thein sein ( puppet than shwe ) can make Kachin to be like America very soon with your poisonous second panglong agreement? There is no free lunch in the world so do not rob Kachin and all ethnic lands with your USDP(Unethical Sithar Disorder Party). Sithar is not authorized to rule the country because sithar should be public servants. Ex-sithar, being not trained well with bad records should not be authorities of Burma.

  24. Bill,
    If Burmese people are not suffer enough yet, as you put it, why don’t you go and tell your opinion on the street of Burma? I want to see it how well it will come out. Not only me, not only opinion makers here. Not only the people who get to west countries, I have no doubt you are the one included and you probably think you are the one who did most of the political activities and only the people like you deserve to get special chances. Let me tell you, there are many ethnic civillians who suffer under tyranny boots since independence, in most cases they suffer more than yourself. It is shameless not to see people suffering and just pushing to unity without conscience? That is not what we had asked in 1988. We want to develop our country. If I am selfish enough, I will not even talk to you because you are not in my class and I will not even be here in this web page. I am here to share what I have learn and I am here to stand up to a man who is willing to lick the tyranny boots and surpress the weaker member of the society in the name of unity without freedom and equality. Good society never can be built without equality and justice. Only corrupt and stupid people like you fail to see it. Grow up and study more.

  25. To “Bill”
    bill wrote: “Aung San was caught up with two huge tasks which the culprits have expected he would failed. Somehow, he sacrificed his name just for the sake of the independent and complete both tasks without hesitation. He knows there was no time and which one is more important to attempt without delay or bargaining before the colonialists made attempt to influence over some hollow headed so called leaders.
    Do you really know what those tasks are? If not, learn more history and ask someone who may be able to help you out of the dark instead of reciting the same in every posts.

    My reply: Aung San requested Japanese army to wipe out British colony in Burma. Not very long, Aung San wiped out his friend, Japanese army after Kachin declared the conquer on Japanese in their land with the help of British colony. Does bill think British colony is too naive to trust Aung San easily and readily after those betraying and betraying of Aung san’s strategy for gaining what he wanted? For the time being, I have no comment on Aung san’s strategy for real and truth of Burmese independence as long as there is silence on British side on this issue. Do you want to say that some hollow headed so called leaders are too naive to be remained with the British colony instead of Aung san’s proposal (great effort )for his equal right of kyat slogan on all Burmese, particularly on all ethics?. Do you want to say that some hollow headed so called leaders are ethnics? Tell me that what happened to the full headed so called leaders who stood beside with Aung san’s kyat slogan after Burmese independence. Do you want to blame there are and were some hollow headed of ethnics arising from the ethnics again and again ? Therefore , U nu ( Buddinization), ne win ( with many women), than shwe ( raping) and thein sein ( puppet) are and were very busy to suppress those hollow headed leaders. They ( U Nu—than shwe) had and has no time for caring the economy of Burma to become the world most poorest country from the rich one. Do you ( bill ) want to say in that way? Do you want to say it is due to colonialist?
    You ( bill) wants to be a good father but the promised father can not make enough earning for the equal share for his children. Some children are and were interested in learning ethic language , traditional and cultural beliefs for their own right. However, father thinks learning ethnics language and ethnic traditional belief will cause themselves more hollow headed again and again. I never hear and heard that Burmese ethnic traditional beliefs are too weir to be need of Buddhisnization by U nu. Do you want to say that Kachin ethnics traditional beliefs are ways of to be weir cannibalism, harming or becoming lazy, and crazy?. The struggling of 3 parties ( British colony, Aung san, ethnics ) is not and are not strange to all over the world as it happened in anywhere and anytime. All parties will or should use their own strategies to win their aim and target within the boundary of ethical and moral principle at least. Being of not naive, British would say it had a duty for equality for all ethnics for all Burmese independence, not bama independence only. Therefore , scarified Aung san was forced to create his lip service ( equal kyat slogan) for getting full heads to be sided with him. Fortunately, British was too weak to occupy Burma any more.
    Whatever it is or it was , we will study the events longitudinally because we are not hollow headed from the early beginning. After giving time with this study, what do you ( historian bill) find now in the world most poorest country( Burma)? The result is all ethnic population, education and culture are lesser and lesser. The full head ,sided with or trusted Aung san are and were killed and raped in Burma. Their lands are and were sold to Chinese and Thailandnese by you. Now , you ( bill ) still wants to be a father with the raping of other people’s wives. You are not permitted to call some one as your son but you do it unethically. You ( bill) admire Aborigines but you never admire Kachin because Kachin are fighting their right and autonomy from Bama military thugs. All say and said, kachin and Karen are royal to British colony fighting Japanese occupation from beginning to the end but you do not agree with this fact in your writing. You admire 30 comrades for fighting British colony but you want British (being full head) to trust the leader of 30 comrades ( Aung san). Do you want to say that there is a Kachin in 30 comrades fighting British colony.
    See the following web for Bertil Lintner, famous writer about Burma. (http://thebrowser.com/interviews/bertil-lintner-on-burma?page=3). B Lintner is allowed to visit Burma now. B Lintner wrote: There was never a Burmese nation state as some argue. Siam was far more advanced when it came to nation-building than Burma was even in the 19th century. They changed the name to Myanmar claiming that Myanmar meant not only the Burmese but all the other ethnic groups as well. That is linguistically and historically incorrect. Myanmar is just the name for the Mandalay kingdom and that Burma was the name for the country. In fact there is no name, nor has there ever been, that covers the country and all the ethnic groups, not until the British came and established the colony.The legacy of Aung San’s Unity in Diversity was replaced by this new Unity concept of Myanmar: one nation, one people, one language.
    If you look at the colonial army in Burma it was almost exclusively composed of Karens and Kachins. There were very few ethnic Burmans in the armed forces under the British. That all changed with the arrival of the Japanese. The Karen and the Kachin then went underground to fight both the Japanese and the Burmese Independence army. Burmese independence army was started with 1000 convicts from Thailand’s prisons. Historically Burma has always played its neighbours against each other and managed to stay neutral. That neutrality is gone now. It is not so much a client as a close ally of China. I argue with you with the reference from B Lintner. Where is your references for appearing in this column with calling or dreaming all as your son? Do you know the 20th/21st century education and analytical skill? How many books you are writing about Burma to prove yourself you are smarter than B Lintner? You might be older than B Lintner and me according to your claim proudly. However, your exiting in the world is “emptying Burmese rice and making Burmese land heavy”. You always expect all oversea Burmese returnee to come back in your hand ( Insein prison) for shutting their mouth. You want to say that you have a gun. President Thein sein does not say in that way and request all oversea Burmese to come back to help the country. You, bill are jealous because of lack of common sense as well as lack of analytical skill up to the standard. All Burmese are shame on your exiting in Burma.

    • To “Bill”
      Which clauses and contents are unfair to U nu and favored to Burmese ethnics in the aspect Panglong agreement. Therefore, you claim Panglong agreement is rubbish from Aung san?

  26. Burma needs educated leaders who are wise and love the country from the bottom of their hearts or soon it will be a colony of another foreign element again. While other countries enjoying their human existence, Burmese are working in foreign countries like servants and slaves while some others are imprisoned in foreign land without fair trial as the foreign countries know that no one would come to their rescue (maybe not even God according to their religious conviction). Lord Buddha, Lord Mohammed, Lord Jesus, please, please help our country!!! Satu, satu, satu. Amen, amen, amen, ……………………………………………….

  27. Norman Hla,
    It is waste of your breath arguing with idiot who only read the lies of their military. I definately know “Bill” can not clearly define “Country”, “State”, and “Nation”, yet he thinks he is the smartest one. I warn you, he is not your class. Don’t pick a fight with a worthless man, you will just lower your standard. If you are arguying with some one who has open minded, the conversation will create many knowledge. But, if you are arguing with some one who thinks he has right to take away some one’s freesdom and their way of life, he will never understand how humanbeing should cooperate each other for the good of society. Unity without freedom and equality is as empty as Bill’s head. Many of the Irrawaddy readers will be laughing at that clown. Why are you arguing with him?

    • Tom Tun
      Thank you for your suggestion to me. I do not want some young Burmese to misunderstand the true Burmese history from cheater. I want to delete the mindset of bamanization ( superior , imperialism, 4 bama warrior statue kings in Nay-pye-daw, erected by rapist than shwe) in Burma. One nation, one religious and one language in Burma is inappropriate way of the dignity, unity and nationality, particularly in Burma. Panglong agreement mainly object this principle in the forming of union of Burma. Bama kings conquered Mon king in history. So, what. However, nobody can deny Mon’s culture is respectable and gentle. For those high value of Mon, it was and is easy to bullied by others. In history, Japan was very smart and cleaver so Japan closed the foreigner invasion ( westerner) for nearly 200 years before Japan became world super power for world war 2. The method of closing Burma country door especially for oversea Burmese returnees is unwise and idiot in this 21st century. There are and were many ethnics warriors from the Burmese history which might be documented by British and Japanese armies during the time of world war 2. Those 4 bama warrior king statues should be demolished if Burma government want to show fairness, freedom and equality to all ethnics. I am not racist. We, Burma should be a lovely multi-ethnic as well as multi-nation country, like USA, Australian, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. Those countries encourage to keep ones’ own culture, tradition as well as language which will make harmony ( due to mutual understanding) in the society with the high chance of economic success. I hope you to come back to help Burma with your educational knowledge and your experiences abroad. If some local Burmese are jealous to you, it is one of the principle of bamanization. President thein sein should keep his promise to sincerely welcome to all oversea Burmese returnees. Or thein sein is not entitled to any decoration of reform as it is the most easy task from his office. Welcome your own Burmese returnees first before rich foreigners. If Thein sein does not trust and does not be sincere to his own Burmese first, all foreigners will be suspicious and lack of confidence on thein sein’s government. General Aung san ( one said he is Chin-Bama blood) said, ” do miss your mother first before you miss your aunties”. Cheer General Aung San of Rangoon University.

  28. Correction: We, Burma should be a lovely multi-ethnic as well as multi-culture country, like USA, Australian, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore.

  29. Bill said no weapon means peace…haha..looser

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